Scala IDE for Eclipse: Expect a little turbulence on trunk ...

Hi Miles,

On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 13:12 +0200, Miles Sabin wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm at EPFL for the next two weeks for an intensive hacking stint with
> Martin and Iulian on the Scala IDE and on scalac's IDE interface. For
> now I would strongly recommend staying well away from trunk if you
> want to be able to get any useful work done: things are currently
> broken and are likely to get worse before they get better.

Thanks for the warning.

> We have some very ambitious (but realistic) plans for this fortnight,
> and I think that by the beginning of June we'll have made an awful lot
> of progress on both stability and features, and will have opened
> things up for much more rapid improvement in the future.

Sounds promising. :) Is ticket #1400 in your plans at all? When talking
about the interface between scalac and Eclipse, the lack of support for
multiple output directories is one of the areas that seems problematic.

As usual, this is an issue for maven projects that tend to use a
separate output directory for test classes.

Best,
Ismael

Hi Miles,

On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 13:12 +0200, Miles Sabin wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm at EPFL for the next two weeks for an intensive hacking stint with
> Martin and Iulian on the Scala IDE and on scalac's IDE interface. For
> now I would strongly recommend staying well away from trunk if you
> want to be able to get any useful work done: things are currently
> broken and are likely to get worse before they get better.

Thanks for the warning.

> We have some very ambitious (but realistic) plans for this fortnight,
> and I think that by the beginning of June we'll have made an awful lot
> of progress on both stability and features, and will have opened
> things up for much more rapid improvement in the future.

Sounds promising. :) Is ticket #1400 in your plans at all? When talking
about the interface between scalac and Eclipse, the lack of support for
multiple output directories is one of the areas that seems problematic.

As usual, this is an issue for maven projects that tend to use a
separate output directory for test classes.

Best,
Ismael

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Ismael Juma wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 13:12 +0200, Miles Sabin wrote:
>> We have some very ambitious (but realistic) plans for this fortnight,
>> and I think that by the beginning of June we'll have made an awful lot
>> of progress on both stability and features, and will have opened
>> things up for much more rapid improvement in the future.
>
> Sounds promising. :) Is ticket #1400 in your plans at all?

Yes.

> As usual, this is an issue for maven projects that tend to use a
> separate output directory for test classes.

Yup, that's the main motivator ...

Cheers,

Miles

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Ismael Juma wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 13:12 +0200, Miles Sabin wrote:
>> We have some very ambitious (but realistic) plans for this fortnight,
>> and I think that by the beginning of June we'll have made an awful lot
>> of progress on both stability and features, and will have opened
>> things up for much more rapid improvement in the future.
>
> Sounds promising. :) Is ticket #1400 in your plans at all?

Yes.

> As usual, this is an issue for maven projects that tend to use a
> separate output directory for test classes.

Yup, that's the main motivator ...

Cheers,

Miles

Miles Sabin wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm at EPFL for the next two weeks for an intensive hacking stint with
> Martin and Iulian on the Scala IDE and on scalac's IDE interface. For
> now I would strongly recommend staying well away from trunk if you
> want to be able to get any useful work done: things are currently
> broken and are likely to get worse before they get better.

Considering the quite long time periods between Scala releases, would it
be possible to have "somewhat tested and stable" releases of the Eclipse
plugin? It could be something as simple as a Subversion tag which is
moved when the code base is considered reasonably stable.

/Jesper Nordenberg

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Jesper Nordenberg wrote:
> Considering the quite long time periods between Scala releases, would it be
> possible to have "somewhat tested and stable" releases of the Eclipse
> plugin? It could be something as simple as a Subversion tag which is moved
> when the code base is considered reasonably stable.

The Scala IDE co-evolves with scalac's IDE interface, so that means
that when the IDE interface is changing rapidly on trunk then the IDE
itself has to follow suit.

So if you want stability then trunk isn't for you: stick to
2.7.4.final (which is the current stable release for the compiler,
libraries and IDE).

Cheers,

Miles

On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 13:49 +0200, Miles Sabin wrote:
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Ismael Juma wrote:
> > Sounds promising. :) Is ticket #1400 in your plans at all?
>
> Yes.

Excellent.

Ismael

On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 13:49 +0200, Miles Sabin wrote:
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Ismael Juma wrote:
> > Sounds promising. :) Is ticket #1400 in your plans at all?
>
> Yes.

Excellent.

Ismael