Best IDE for Scala?

Here's a general wiki that I hacked up from the replies of others on
this thread. I didn't put it in the wiki, but I think eclipse is the
most widely used. I wouldn't swear by anything, but I have always
found netbeans to be the easiest and I think it's unfairly shunned
based on it being the first to the market and has older stereotypes.
I've tried Netbeans and eclipse off and on and I usually side with
Netbeans because it's snappier and more intuitive. I would download
both, get them setup, and bounce between them for a bit.

If people have tested out several IDEs, they should update the wiki
with some of their personal input.

http://scala.sygneca.com//faqs/development

Josh

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Kenneth
McDonald wrote:
> Eclipse or NetBeans? I'm curious, because I've never been able to get the
> Net Beans one working on my system.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken
>
>

On Wednesday July 1 2009, Kenneth McDonald wrote:
> Eclipse or NetBeans? I'm curious, because I've never been able to get
> the Net Beans one working on my system.

IDEA.

> Thanks,
> Ken

Randall Schulz

Netbeans has always been pretty stable for me. The latest release seemed to fixed the halting problem :). The only remaining nag I have left is it's cluttered navigator. Eclipse on the other hand I have had more problems getting to work correctly (error detection not getting updated and intellisense not working properly).

What particular errors do you get with Netbeans?

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Kenneth McDonald <kenneth.m.mcdonald@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Eclipse or NetBeans? I'm curious, because I've never been able to get the Net Beans one working on my system.

Thanks,
Ken

My
recent experience (that turned me back to Java under eclipse) told me that:
NetBeans
appears to work better, but effectively do less work (e.g. auto-complete
doesn't work for protected members in sub-classes!) and Eclipse tries to do
more work and often fails doing it.

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> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 05:48:11 +0200
> Subject: Re: [scala-user] Best IDE for Scala?
> From: tolsen77@gmail.com
> To: kenneth.m.mcdonald@sbcglobal.net
> CC: scala-user@listes.epfl.ch
>
> Netbeans has always been pretty stable for me. The latest release seemed to fixed the halting problem :). The only remaining nag I have left is it's cluttered navigator. Eclipse on the other hand I have had more problems getting to work correctly (error detection not getting updated and intellisense not working properly).
>
>
> What particular errors do you get with Netbeans?
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Kenneth McDonald> wrote:
>
> Eclipse or NetBeans? I'm curious, because I've never been able to get the Net Beans one working on my system.
>
>

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Hi.

If your PC is low spec , I recommend Eclipse.
My PC is too poor to use NetBean ;-(

Thanks.

On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:53:03 +0900, Kenneth McDonald
wrote:
> Eclipse or NetBeans? I'm curious, because I've never been able to get
> the Net Beans one working on my system.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken
>

> If your PC is low spec , I recommend Eclipse.
> My PC is too poor to use NetBean ;-(

This is a really interesting discussion. I use Netbeans on what I
consider a fast system, because Eclipse couldn't keep up. I wonder if
there are any flame-war-inducing benchmarks we could reference...

Since Netbeans 3, I think it had a really bad rap for performance, but
I think most reviews on Netbeans 6+ have been great. I haven't had
any issues with Netbeans at all. I think both IDEs are great, but I
do believe Netbeans does have a better plugin manager.

I think it comes down to what you want. I've heard eclipse has better
support for build scripts like maven and other complexities. I use
subversion, the scala plugins, and a basic ant script I wrote in
Netbeans and it does a decent job of compiling, building, running, and
packaging and it works quite well for those requirements (for me).

Josh

Hi.

I feel NetBeans UI is slow than Eclipse.
(Vista on Celelon M 1.6G , RAM 2G)
# In my case , japanese-font may slow down NetBeans.
# Eclipse use no japanese-font , NetBeans AUTOMATICALLY use japanese-font
Thanks.

- shuji
japan

On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:16:39 +0900, Josh Stratton
wrote:

>> If your PC is low spec , I recommend Eclipse.
>> My PC is too poor to use NetBean ;-(
>
> This is a really interesting discussion. I use Netbeans on what I
> consider a fast system, because Eclipse couldn't keep up. I wonder if
> there are any flame-war-inducing benchmarks we could reference...
>
> Since Netbeans 3, I think it had a really bad rap for performance, but
> I think most reviews on Netbeans 6+ have been great. I haven't had
> any issues with Netbeans at all. I think both IDEs are great, but I
> do believe Netbeans does have a better plugin manager.
>
> I think it comes down to what you want. I've heard eclipse has better
> support for build scripts like maven and other complexities. I use
> subversion, the scala plugins, and a basic ant script I wrote in
> Netbeans and it does a decent job of compiling, building, running, and
> packaging and it works quite well for those requirements (for me).
>
> Josh

I'm guessing that you don't mean the halting problem : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem
Of course, it would be a pretty impressive plugin that could take mathematical academia by storm! :)


On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Trond Olsen <tolsen77@gmail.com> wrote:

Netbeans has always been pretty stable for me. The latest release seemed to fixed the halting problem :). The only remaining nag I have left is it's cluttered navigator. Eclipse on the other hand I have had more problems getting to work correctly (error detection not getting updated and intellisense not working properly).

What particular errors do you get with Netbeans?

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Kenneth McDonald <kenneth.m.mcdonald@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Eclipse or NetBeans? I'm curious, because I've never been able to get the Net Beans one working on my system.

Thanks,
Ken

IDEA's Scala plugin has been working quite acceptably for me.

- Navigation and code completion work, with only minor problems.
- ScalaTest and Specs frameworks are supported.
- Sometimes the compiler gets confused and does not compile all changed
files (you get weird compiler errors), but that doesn't happen too often
and restarting IDEA helps.
- There are some very basic refactorings such as Rename, Introduce
Variable and Inline Variable. Hopefully they'll add Extract Method and
Inline Method soon. That would cover the most common refactorings, over
90% of all use cases.
- The biggest issue to me is a performance problem in code parsing which
causes stuttering when typing quickly.

Kenneth McDonald wrote on 2.7.2009 5:53:
> Eclipse or NetBeans? I'm curious, because I've never been able to get
> the Net Beans one working on my system.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken
>

2009/7/2 Josh Stratton <strattonbrazil@gmail.com>

Here's a general wiki that I hacked up from the replies of others on
this thread.  I didn't put it in the wiki, but I think eclipse is the
most widely used.  I wouldn't swear by anything, but I have always
found netbeans to be the easiest and I think it's unfairly shunned
based on it being the first to the market and has older stereotypes.
I've tried Netbeans and eclipse off and on and I usually side with
Netbeans because it's snappier and more intuitive.  

are you using Windows, because i can assure you it isn't snappy by any means.  i feel a certain lag with all SWING based IDEs on linux, but i it could be just me.
 

I would download
both, get them setup, and bounce between them for a bit.

If people have tested out several IDEs, they should update the wiki
with some of their personal input.

http://scala.sygneca.com//faqs/development

Josh

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Kenneth
McDonald<kenneth.m.mcdonald@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Eclipse or NetBeans? I'm curious, because I've never been able to get the
> Net Beans one working on my system.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken
>
>

FWIW, I felt NetBeans snappier on Windows too. Vista 64, Q9450, 4 GB.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:11 AM, Mohamed Bana <mbana.lists@googlemail.com> wrote:

2009/7/2 Josh Stratton <strattonbrazil@gmail.com>

Here's a general wiki that I hacked up from the replies of others on
this thread.  I didn't put it in the wiki, but I think eclipse is the
most widely used.  I wouldn't swear by anything, but I have always
found netbeans to be the easiest and I think it's unfairly shunned
based on it being the first to the market and has older stereotypes.
I've tried Netbeans and eclipse off and on and I usually side with
Netbeans because it's snappier and more intuitive.  

are you using Windows, because i can assure you it isn't snappy by any means.  i feel a certain lag with all SWING based IDEs on linux, but i it could be just me.
 

I would download
both, get them setup, and bounce between them for a bit.

If people have tested out several IDEs, they should update the wiki
with some of their personal input.

http://scala.sygneca.com//faqs/development

Josh

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Kenneth
McDonald<kenneth.m.mcdonald@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Eclipse or NetBeans? I'm curious, because I've never been able to get the
> Net Beans one working on my system.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken
>
>

--
Daniel C. Sobral

Something I learned in academia: there are three kinds of academic reviews: review by name, review by reference and review by value.

Ken, let us again work on your Problem, did you have a PPC Mac?
I'm running Netbeans very fine on my macbook. For the general debate
Netbeans over Eclipse i agree with:
Skeptic 2000 , Netbeans maybe offers not so much ( really? enough for me!)
but what it offers works quite "well".

Ditto
--Eric
Rita Rudner  - "I was a vegetarian until I started leaning toward the sunlight."

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Randall R Schulz <rschulz@sonic.net> wrote:

On Wednesday July 1 2009, Kenneth McDonald wrote:
> Eclipse or NetBeans? I'm curious, because I've never been able to get
> the Net Beans one working on my system.

IDEA.


> Thanks,
> Ken


Randall Schulz

Kenneth McDonald wrote:
> Eclipse or NetBeans? I'm curious, because I've never been able to get
> the Net Beans one working on my system.

And I've never been able to get Eclipse working. Anytime I've tried, it
just spews tons of errors on fairly normal Scala 2.7.5 compatible code.

Netbeans however has been fairly reliable.

Ciao,
Gordon

Esko Luontola wrote:
> IDEA's Scala plugin has been working quite acceptably for me.
>
> - Navigation and code completion work, with only minor problems.
> - ScalaTest and Specs frameworks are supported.
> - Sometimes the compiler gets confused and does not compile all changed
> files (you get weird compiler errors), but that doesn't happen too often
> and restarting IDEA helps.
> - There are some very basic refactorings such as Rename, Introduce
> Variable and Inline Variable. Hopefully they'll add Extract Method and
> Inline Method soon. That would cover the most common refactorings, over
> 90% of all use cases.
> - The biggest issue to me is a performance problem in code parsing which
> causes stuttering when typing quickly.

I find IDEA (8 and above) very good for Scala; 7 wasn't really usable. I
get cache/compiler weirdness from IDEA once a week in Java anyway, I
think it's the IDE rather than the plugin (Jetbrains should sort IDEA's
cache out before adding features to 9 imvho :).

To get clean builds, I usually shell out to buildr. I think has very the
best Scala support of the current build systems.

Bill

Gordon Tyler wrote:
> Kenneth McDonald wrote:
>> Eclipse or NetBeans? I'm curious, because I've never been able to get
>> the Net Beans one working on my system.
>
> And I've never been able to get Eclipse working. Anytime I've tried, it
> just spews tons of errors on fairly normal Scala 2.7.5 compatible code.

I should amend this. Miles Sabin has helped me get Eclipse mostly
working. It does still spew errors when creating projects and has some
weird issues where spurious error markers are shown in the editor that
disappear when the file is re-opened, but otherwise it works and I can
edit Scala code. Miles tells me that these problems will be fixed for
the 2.8.0 release of the plugin.

In its favour, it does seem to do a better job of type introspection and
code completion than NetBeans, especialy in a Scala project referencing
Java classes from an external JAR.

Ciao,
Gordon

Hi,

I'm managing to be quite productive with Eclipse (Scala plugin 2.7.5
final - despite small bugs) bridging dependencies from SBT into an
IvyDE container. Getting rid of Maven plugins actually improved the
overall experience, and having fine control from an (external) SBT
console works better for me.

For those who are interested this is a good place to get started:
http://code.google.com/p/simple-build-tool/wiki/IntegrationSupport

Francisco

2009/7/7 Gordon Tyler :
> Gordon Tyler wrote:
>>
>> Kenneth McDonald wrote:
>>>
>>> Eclipse or NetBeans? I'm curious, because I've never been able to get
>>> the Net Beans one working on my system.
>>
>> And I've never been able to get Eclipse working. Anytime I've tried, it
>> just spews tons of errors on fairly normal Scala 2.7.5 compatible code.
>
> I should amend this. Miles Sabin has helped me get Eclipse mostly working.
> It does still spew errors when creating projects and has some weird issues
> where spurious error markers are shown in the editor that disappear when the
> file is re-opened, but otherwise it works and I can edit Scala code. Miles
> tells me that these problems will be fixed for the 2.8.0 release of the
> plugin.
>
> In its favour, it does seem to do a better job of type introspection and
> code completion than NetBeans, especialy in a Scala project referencing Java
> classes from an external JAR.
>
> Ciao,
> Gordon
>

I am getting the following error.

Cannot complete the install because of a conflicting dependency.
Software being installed: Scala Eclipse Plugin 2.7.5.final
(ch.epfl.lamp.sdt.feature.group 2.7.5.final)
Software currently installed: Eclipse Weaving Service Feature
2.0.0.e35x-20090624-1600 (org.eclipse.contribution.weaving.feature.group
2.0.0.e35x-20090624-1600)
Only one of the following can be installed at once:
JDT Weaving 2.0.0.e35x-20090624-1600
(org.eclipse.contribution.weaving.jdt 2.0.0.e35x-20090624-1600)
JDT Weaving 1.6.4.20090313172428
(org.eclipse.contribution.weaving.jdt 1.6.4.20090313172428)
Cannot satisfy dependency:
From: Scala Eclipse Plugin 2.7.5.final
(ch.epfl.lamp.sdt.feature.group 2.7.5.final)
To: org.eclipse.contribution.weaving.jdt [1.6.4.20090313172428]
Cannot satisfy dependency:
From: Eclipse Weaving Service Feature 2.0.0.e35x-20090624-1600
(org.eclipse.contribution.weaving.feature.group
2.0.0.e35x-20090624-1600)
To: org.eclipse.contribution.weaving.jdt [2.0.0.e35x-20090624-1600]

Mohan

-----Original Message-----
From: francisco treacy [mailto:francisco.treacy@gmail.com]
Sent: 08 July 2009 04:24
To: Gordon Tyler
Cc: Scala User List
Subject: Re: [scala-user] Best IDE for Scala?

Hi,

I'm managing to be quite productive with Eclipse (Scala plugin 2.7.5
final - despite small bugs) bridging dependencies from SBT into an IvyDE
container. Getting rid of Maven plugins actually improved the overall
experience, and having fine control from an (external) SBT console works
better for me.

For those who are interested this is a good place to get started:
http://code.google.com/p/simple-build-tool/wiki/IntegrationSupport

Francisco

2009/7/7 Gordon Tyler :
> Gordon Tyler wrote:
>>
>> Kenneth McDonald wrote:
>>>
>>> Eclipse or NetBeans? I'm curious, because I've never been able to
>>> get the Net Beans one working on my system.
>>
>> And I've never been able to get Eclipse working. Anytime I've tried,
>> it just spews tons of errors on fairly normal Scala 2.7.5 compatible
code.
>
> I should amend this. Miles Sabin has helped me get Eclipse mostly
working.
> It does still spew errors when creating projects and has some weird
> issues where spurious error markers are shown in the editor that
> disappear when the file is re-opened, but otherwise it works and I can

> edit Scala code. Miles tells me that these problems will be fixed for
> the 2.8.0 release of the plugin.
>
> In its favour, it does seem to do a better job of type introspection
> and code completion than NetBeans, especialy in a Scala project
> referencing Java classes from an external JAR.
>
> Ciao,
> Gordon
>

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On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Narayanaswamy,
Mohan wrote:
> I am getting the following error.

Unfortunately that's a versioning conflict between AJDT 2.0.0 and the
Scala IDE 2.7.5.final ... it's fixed on trunk (but I still wouldn't
recommend using trunk for day to day work) so will be resolved in the
2.8.0 release.

Cheers,

Miles

Hi,

Any news concerning the new 2.8 Eclipse Scala plugin?

I was successfully working with 2.7.5-final, but lately it has been
getting unbearably slow - a total blocker (Eclipse sometimes hangs and
it once even broke my workspace).

Is the 2.8 branch still unstable, would it be too risky to grab the
nightlies? Is there any roadmap?

Thanks,

Francisco

2009/7/27 Miles Sabin :
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Narayanaswamy,
> Mohan wrote:
>> I am getting the following error.
>
> Unfortunately that's a versioning conflict between AJDT 2.0.0 and the
> Scala IDE 2.7.5.final ... it's fixed on trunk (but I still wouldn't
> recommend using trunk for day to day work) so will be resolved in the
> 2.8.0 release.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Miles
>
> --
> Miles Sabin
> tel: +44 (0)7813 944 528
> skype:  milessabin
> http://www.chuusai.com/
> http://twitter.com/milessabin
>

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:33 PM, francisco
treacy wrote:
> Any news concerning the new 2.8 Eclipse Scala plugin?
>
> I was successfully working with 2.7.5-final, but lately it has been
> getting unbearably slow - a total blocker (Eclipse sometimes hangs and
> it once even broke my workspace).

If you get Eclipse hangs during builds with 2.7.5 or earlier, try
quitting Eclipse, deleting your projects .manager directory, then
restart Eclipse and do a clean build.

> Is the 2.8 branch still unstable, would it be too risky to grab the
> nightlies? Is there any roadmap?

Not ready yet, but getting there ... watch this space.

Cheers,

Miles