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Which IDE to use until they get the Eclipse IDE working?

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Ben Arnold
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My preferred IDE is Eclipse but after failing to get it working and
looking around it seems as if the Scala Eclipse plug-in has been
completely broken since the latest Eclipse release (nine months ago).
They seem to be working on fixing it but it's only a "normal" priority
ticket (3251) that has been open for a year so I don't expect it to be
fixed soon.

I'm really excited about Scala though so does anyone have any
recommendation of the best IDE to use for playing around with Scala,
in the absence of Eclipse support?

I'm looking for something pretty stable. I remember trying Scala on
Eclipse years ago and the plug-in was riddled with bugs, so something
that isn't going to pop up stack traces at me every couple of minutes
would be nice.

What IDE do the Scala gurus use?

Ben

Srirangan
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Re: Which IDE to use until they get the Eclipse IDE working?
NetBeans is working nicely for me.
- Sri

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Ben <benedict.arnold@gmail.com> wrote:
My preferred IDE is Eclipse but after failing to get it working and
looking around it seems as if the Scala Eclipse plug-in has been
completely broken since the latest Eclipse release (nine months ago).
They seem to be working on fixing it but it's only a "normal" priority
ticket (3251) that has been open for a year so I don't expect it to be
fixed soon.

I'm really excited about Scala though so does anyone have any
recommendation of the best IDE to use for playing around with Scala,
in the absence of Eclipse support?

I'm looking for something pretty stable. I remember trying Scala on
Eclipse years ago and the plug-in was riddled with bugs, so something
that isn't going to pop up stack traces at me every couple of minutes
would be nice.

What IDE do the Scala gurus use?



Ben



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Donald McLean
Joined: 2009-11-11,
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Re: Which IDE to use until they get the Eclipse IDE working?

I'm hardly a guru but I've been finding that Scala support in
JetBrains IDEA is steadily improving.

Use the Community Edition (free) of the 10.5 pre-release:

http://confluence.jetbrains.net/display/IDEADEV/IDEA+10.5+EAP

And one of the recent nightly builds of the plugin:

http://confluence.jetbrains.net/display/SCA/Scala+Plugin+Nightly+Builds+...

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Ben wrote:
>
> What IDE do the Scala gurus use?

Mike 2
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Re: Which IDE to use until they get the Eclipse IDE working?

Discussion of the Eclipse Scala plug-in takes place on the
scala-ide-user list. I think you should check the recent threads there.

Ken McDonald
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Re: Which IDE to use until they get the Eclipse IDE working?
It's unfortunate that "scala-ide-user" is aimed solely at Eclipse, but given that it is, I think that posting a question about _other_ IDEs to "scala-user" is appropriate :-)
Cheers,Ken
Ken McDonald
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Re: Which IDE to use until they get the Eclipse IDE working?

IDEA. I haven't tried NetBeans in a bit, but it had quite a few problems last time I tried.

Tony Sloane
Joined: 2009-01-07,
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Re: Which IDE to use until they get the Eclipse IDE working?

Hi Ben,

On 06/04/2011, at 12:15 PM, Ben wrote:

> My preferred IDE is Eclipse but after failing to get it working and
> looking around it seems as if the Scala Eclipse plug-in has been
> completely broken since the latest Eclipse release (nine months ago).
> They seem to be working on fixing it but it's only a "normal" priority
> ticket (3251) that has been open for a year so I don't expect it to be
> fixed soon.
>
> I'm really excited about Scala though so does anyone have any
> recommendation of the best IDE to use for playing around with Scala,
> in the absence of Eclipse support?
>
> I'm looking for something pretty stable. I remember trying Scala on
> Eclipse years ago and the plug-in was riddled with bugs, so something
> that isn't going to pop up stack traces at me every couple of minutes
> would be nice.
>
> What IDE do the Scala gurus use?

Can't really answer that one, but I can say that the latest 2.9.0.RC1 beta release of the Eclipse plugin is a big improvement on the last public release. I've been using it quite a bit since it was released a week or so ago and it's quite stable. It's not without some problems, but definitely not "completely broken". It's worth trying. See

http://www.scala-lang.org/node/8990

for details.

cheers,
Tony

Daniel Hinojosa
Joined: 2011-03-26,
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Re: Which IDE to use until they get the Eclipse IDE working?
I'll join everyones praise of IDEA. I just want to add that it runs Scala Test and Specs very well from hot key.
MattRussell
Joined: 2009-07-22,
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Re: Which IDE to use until they get the Eclipse IDE working?

On Apr 6, 3:15 am, Ben wrote:

> it seems as if the Scala Eclipse plug-in has been
> completely broken since the latest Eclipse release (nine months ago).
> They seem to be working on fixing it but it's only a "normal" priority
> ticket (3251) that has been open for a year so I don't expect it to be
> fixed soon.

That ticket is about compatibility with Eclipse 3.6, and latest
versions have supported it for a while now. Did you try any of the
builds from http://download.scala-ide.org ?

Ben Hutchison 3
Joined: 2009-11-02,
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Re: Which IDE to use until they get the Eclipse IDE working?

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Ben wrote:
> My preferred IDE is Eclipse but after failing to get it working and
> looking around it seems as if the Scala Eclipse plug-in has been
> completely broken since the latest Eclipse release (nine months ago).
> They seem to be working on fixing it but it's only a "normal" priority
> ticket (3251) that has been open for a year so I don't expect it to be
> fixed soon.

Im just not having the same experience as you.

Ive been writing code in scala regularly (eg at least once a week) for
the last 9 months, probably 2000 lines in total, and 99% of that was
done in the Eclipse IDE. Yesterday, I used the IDE to write Scala for
5 hours straight without any significant problems.

I would agree that for much of the last 9 months, it has been
unstable. But far from "completely broken".

And in the last 2 months, there's been a massive improvement in stability.

> What IDE do the Scala gurus use?

I use the wip_experiment trunk version.

I always run SBT underneath the IDE, mainly for a second opinion on
compiler errors - sometimes the IDE presentation compiler gets it
wrong.

-Ben

H-star Development
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Re: Which IDE to use until they get the Eclipse IDE working?

every time this question comes up, i can only say: try intellij idea.

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 17:50:05 +1000
> Von: Ben Hutchison
> An: Ben
> CC: scala-user
> Betreff: Re: [scala-user] Which IDE to use until they get the Eclipse IDE working?

> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Ben wrote:
> > My preferred IDE is Eclipse but after failing to get it working and
> > looking around it seems as if the Scala Eclipse plug-in has been
> > completely broken since the latest Eclipse release (nine months ago).
> > They seem to be working on fixing it but it's only a "normal" priority
> > ticket (3251) that has been open for a year so I don't expect it to be
> > fixed soon.
>
> Im just not having the same experience as you.
>
> Ive been writing code in scala regularly (eg at least once a week) for
> the last 9 months, probably 2000 lines in total, and 99% of that was
> done in the Eclipse IDE. Yesterday, I used the IDE to write Scala for
> 5 hours straight without any significant problems.
>
> I would agree that for much of the last 9 months, it has been
> unstable. But far from "completely broken".
>
> And in the last 2 months, there's been a massive improvement in stability.
>
> > What IDE do the Scala gurus use?
>
> I use the wip_experiment trunk version.
>
> I always run SBT underneath the IDE, mainly for a second opinion on
> compiler errors - sometimes the IDE presentation compiler gets it
> wrong.
>
> -Ben

Philippe Lhoste
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Re: Which IDE to use until they get the Eclipse IDE working?

On 06/04/2011 05:03, Ken McDonald wrote:
> It's unfortunate that "scala-ide-user" is aimed solely at Eclipse, but given that it is, I
> think that posting a question about _other_ IDEs to "scala-user" is appropriate :-)

Well, perhaps scala-tools would have been more appropriate, no? ^_^

Ben Arnold
Joined: 2011-04-06,
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Re: Which IDE to use until they get the Eclipse IDE working?
Thanks! I used that version and have a Hello World program up and running without any problems at all.
I've also installed Netbeans and IntelliJ so I'll try them out just for the fun of comparison.
Thanks again. And thanks to everyone else who replied.
On 6 April 2011 14:34, Tony Sloane <inkytonik@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Ben,

On 06/04/2011, at 12:15 PM, Ben wrote:

> My preferred IDE is Eclipse but after failing to get it working and
> looking around it seems as if the Scala Eclipse plug-in has been
> completely broken since the latest Eclipse release (nine months ago).
> They seem to be working on fixing it but it's only a "normal" priority
> ticket (3251) that has been open for a year so I don't expect it to be
> fixed soon.
>
> I'm really excited about Scala though so does anyone have any
> recommendation of the best IDE to use for playing around with Scala,
> in the absence of Eclipse support?
>
> I'm looking for something pretty stable. I remember trying Scala on
> Eclipse years ago and the plug-in was riddled with bugs, so something
> that isn't going to pop up stack traces at me every couple of minutes
> would be nice.
>
> What IDE do the Scala gurus use?

Can't really answer that one, but I can say that the latest 2.9.0.RC1 beta release of the Eclipse plugin is a big improvement on the last public release.  I've been using it quite a bit since it was released a week or so ago and it's quite stable.  It's not without some problems, but definitely not "completely broken".  It's worth trying.  See

http://www.scala-lang.org/node/8990

for details.

cheers,
Tony


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